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While the guy in question makes some good points, there are a few things that bothered me. Or at least, things I want to talk about.
-The matter of Lucas not getting STAR WARS: Okay, I will admit that argument can be a bit silly considering that he created the damn thing, but at the same time, creators are human. They make mistakes. And while I can't say whether or not Lucas has, per se (okay, except for King Rash. Rash can go to hell. :P And the design of Ahsoka's costume -- I mean, she's *fourteen*, for fuck's sake! And the Jedi being assholes -- I just think he didn't really do it well, which I may get to later), saying that people who don't get it need to learn to get it or get out of the fandom... *Sighs* Here's the secret: most of them have very valid reasons for why they don't like certain aspects of STAR WARS. Sure, there may be cretins in the fandom, but every fandom has those. And honestly? I think that people who dictate the rules of fandom really need to stop trying to do that. Because honestly? Fandom is there for fun, not for the sake of bossing people around. And if people like that don't get it...well, they're probably the ones who should get out of the fandom, For everyone's sake.
(None of you guys here. You're very nice)
-Lucas ultimately owns STAR WARS: All right, yes. Fine. But I think at the same time...well, I think Lucas owes as much to his fans in turn. For example, not insulting them when he was due for retirement. Because really? As I said earlier, most of them have valid points. And I'm sure that most of them didn't want to see him retire, and they sure as hell weren't expecting to be semi-implicated in it.
*Sighs*
Lucas, if by any unlikely chance that you're reading this, know that none of us have ever truly hated you. (I hope) We may have hated some of the decisions you made, but never you personally. At least, I never did. And I know there are people out there who are grateful for Luke and Leia and so many others, even if they don't like what else you may have done. Honestly, for every RLM-wannabe, there's someone willing to write a Doorstopper of a rebuttal on behalf of TPM. For everyone on Twitter or Tumblr who retweets or reblogs someone's pro-Lucas opinion to make fun of it, there's always someone brave enough to step up to the plate and say, "No more." Hell, you shouldn't presume that your fanbase has turned against you because of a few people with egos that could rival Ian Levine's. (For those who don't know who Levine is...it's a WHO thing)
*Sighs*
Granted, I doubt this bit's going to change a damn thing. But at least I can get it out.
-The plot/acting/etc. -- Okay, point taken. That said, I still have issues in regards to the plot. The Jedi Council suffering from a case of "stupid for the plot to proceed" -- granted, that may be the point, but... *Sighs* When the plot could be unraveled by someone on the Council not blindly going along with what Palpatine wants, it's probably time to go back to the drawing board. Maybe it's just me, but it's a detail that just really annoys me. Also, I'm guessing what worked back then probably doesn't work now, and for movies that are supposed to be darker and more realistic than the OT...yeah, you can't have it both ways. Or maybe you can? I don't know.
Also, accusing people of simply not being devoted enough fan-wise...that's insulting, and goes back to the whole "true fan" mentality that annoys the fuck out of me. Am I not a true fan because I don't think how you want me to think? Is that it? Because it's really kind of a ridiculous way to think. Everyone's opinion is valid, in some way or another. (Well, most of the time)
-Okay, no complaints here. It just brings me to something that's been kind of hounding me for a while -- "ZOMG ANAKIN IS PURE EVUL, HOW CAN YOU FEEL SORRY FOR HIM?"
*Sighs*
First off, to paraphrase Russell T. Davies, labeling someone as evil doesn't help understand someone's motivations any more, nor does it help decrease their numbers. It's usually one of the things that should be an honorable mention on Cracked's "Top Five Dismissive Arguments You Only Use When You're Wrong", even if there are areas where it is applicable. Second off, it's way more complex than that. He was in a difficult situation, had no doubt witnessed good people die over the course of the Clone Wars, as well as being used by both Palpatine and the Council. I doubt most people would fare any better in that situation; after all, none of us are saints. Or who knows, maybe we would? I just love Anakin because he's human and flawed, and thus I definitely prefer him to the stereotypical clean-cut heroes slaying dragons who are never touched by evil in some form. Because they're not interesting, they don't develop, and they're not well-written. Good writing is willing to go to places others fear to tread, and thus, it's why I love the PT. For all its faults, it took risks -- risks that I doubt many others would have been willing to take.
Not to mention I myself can identify a lot with Anakin. I didn't really fit in well at school, I had these constant fears of not being good enough, I'm...pretty protective of people I care about, I have a bit of a short temper, and while the teachers at my school were much nicer than the Council was towards Anakin, I still had issues with some of my teachers. Which I think is one of many reasons why I can identify with Anakin a bit, and him having to put up with what it means to be the Chosen One, and a Jedi. I know Anakin saying to Padme, "I'm a Jedi. I know I'm better than this" really strikes a chord with me, because I know I tend to think that a lot. Not to mention, sometimes like Anakin, I wish I could make things right, be good enough...stuff like that.
So bottom line, I love Anakin if only because of his imperfections. Nothing more. I can understand if people dislike him if only because they find him grating at certain points, but...that's my point of view, at least. :)
-About Jar-Jar: Mostly combining both points about Jar-Jar if only...well, let's face it, they serve the same point. Jar-Jar was actually one of those characters I didn't expect to like, let alone love. I know my first encounter with him was a TPM tie-in book with a cover that looked like it had crawled out of Ralph Bakshi's nightmares: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090222161232/starwars/images/2/26/WatchOutJarJar-cover.jpg. It's for that reason I find Rifftrax's comment about Jar-Jar looking like Roger Rabbit designed by Satan hilarious, at least in a sense. XD But when I got to Terry Brooks' novelization of TPM, I absolutely loved him. I know stand-out passages include his thoughts after Padme's meeting with the Senate, as well as his thoughts during the Battle of Naboo. I think Brooks did a good job with making him identifiable.
It's also the characterization I'm going for in the RR-Verse (at least I hope) -- a rather klutzy young Gungan with a lot of empathy. With a dash of angst in there if only because of his time in an Imperial camp with Obi-Wan (/end minor detail spoiler). Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. :(
-Midichlorians: Definitely agree on that point. I'll admit, I don't know why some people (not here, just elsewhere) go, "The Force is scientific? Holy crap, the end is nigh!" And maybe I'm being a bit harsh, and people have legit reasons as to why they don't like the idea of the midichlorians (and if so...I'm interested. :), but...I dunno, I just don't get what the deal is. (Should I turn in my geek card right now?)
-The Jedi: Okay, the guy makes some good points on them, but I'm not quite happy still. I just didn't find the Jedi even remotely sympathetic or heroic or whatnot -- they basically browbeat a boy for missing his mother, for one thing, as well as tried to get a son to kill his father. In addition, they've been willing to commit genocide several times, mind rape (looking at you, Council in the first KOTOR game) and attempt to strip the Force from those they deem to be unnatural (Council in KOTOR II, anyone?), as well as exile those trying to help those in need. Not to mention being more interested in taxations on trade routes than helping out with the slave problem on Tatooine (and I don't give a rat's ass about Tatooine being outside the Republic's jurisdiction; they have a duty to help those in need), refusing to let people visit their families, refusing to mercy kill or redeem people, thinking in black and white, refusing to take responsibility -- honestly, if they're the alleged good guys, they could at least act like them once in a while.
Honestly, I doubt there's any difference between the Jedi and the Sith. The Sith just cut the bullshit and admit they're monsters, at least. Otherwise, they're the exact same people -- people with too much power, to paraphrase KOTOR II, squabbling over religion while everyone else in the galaxy burns.
*Sighs*
Sorry -- just had to get it out. I just wish that Lucas had gone into more detail about why the Jedi are who they are -- Yoda, for example. I mean, in the EU, it's explained that what happened with Dooku was where Yoda started losing faith in the idea of redemption. And while I commend the EU if only for that, how powerful would it be if that were an arc for Yoda in the films? Picture it -- a younger Yoda, younger than in ESB and ROTJ at least, starting out...not perfect, but idealistic at the most. Relatively good-intentioned, and with the belief of redemption. When Dooku falls, Yoda goes after him to Geonosis if only to save him from himself, but Dooku refuses, if only because he thinks that he's doing the right thing. After all, the Republic has become corrupt. It 's time for a change in regime. Naturally, Yoda disagrees because even though the Republic has become corrupt, it's ideals are still very much worth fighting for. He continues throughout the Clone Wars to save his former student, never giving up hope...and then the end of the Clone Wars. When Anakin kills him, in a way, Yoda can't help but hate him -- even though he tries to suppress it, because Jedi don't hate. And yet at the same time, he can't help it. All his hopes of saving Dooku, lost. He knows that Dooku technically rejected redemption, but at the same time, a part of him finds it hard to take. In a way, he hates Anakin because when he looks at him, he sees the man who killed Dooku. Things get worse when Order 66 rolls around, and combined with Dooku's loss and the near-genocide of the Order, Yoda doesn't see how Anakin can be redeemed. He doesn't punish Anakin when he sends Obi-Wan to fight him. After all, a Jedi does not take revenge. But at the same time, after Dooku and Order 66...is it any wonder that he and Obi-Wan are doubtful of Anakin being redeemed?
*Sighs*
Okay, that probably came off as more crappy wish-fulfillment on my part than anything else. But at least, it would have been nice to see how Yoda became who he was.
-Kiddie STAR WARS: Okay, I can see his point. Then again, I never really got the whole "kiddie isn't meaningful" stuff. As Russell T. Davies said long ago, basically, kids can appreciate tragedy, and adults can appreciate comedy. Kids are smarter than most (in general) give them credit for. I'll admit that it's one problem I have with CLONE WARS; there are times when I feel it doesn't take it's audience seriously. At least, some of the dialogue feels like we're being told what to think (I know for all I loved "Tipping Points", that was a major offender in that regard). At least...let he audience figure things out for themselves. Don't exposit what we're supposed to think. Still really love CLONE WARS; that was just something that bugged me.
-CGI: Okay, the guy has a point, but I think the problem is...well, there were a lot of blue and green screen shots in the PT. While there were some location shots, at the same time...well, you can't just make your blue screen/green screen the answer to everything. People might not be able to know what they're looking at, for example. People might not be able to see where they're going. And while sometimes blue screen/green screen is necessary (e.g. really dangerous shots like fighting amongst lava), at the same time, if you confuse your actors...you're kind of in trouble.
And Pixar? The whole point of Pixar was animating everything in CGI, making a genre out of it. It wasn't supposed to look...real-real, really. The problem with some CGI is that it takes a fine hand to make it look real. And sometimes using it where it's not needed (e.g. THE CAVERN with a fucking *CGI campfire*).
I think ultimately where LOTR succeeded was that it managed to strike a balance between practical and non-practical effects. Sort of half and half. CGI isn't the devil as so many make it out to be (then again, I think most off LJ are wannabe hipsters. Best I can gather. They might have legit reasons though, and I could be wrong), but...balance in all things, people. That includes effects.
-Used future: Okay, point, but at the same time, a little dirt and dust goes a long way at adding realism.
-Canon contradicting EU: Okay, seriously, that's admittedly kind of dumb. I mean, I think the EU authors are just as much guessing as we are. They're not really the final word on things. I actually like some of their work (I know), but they're not really the experts on things.
-Han shot first: What really gets to me is Lucas accusing the "Han shot first " crowd of wanting Han to be a cold-blooded killer. I mean, *no*. Self-defense does not equal cold-blooded murder. Greedo was not some poor defenseless hellspawn; he was going to either kill Han or turn him over to Jabba so Jabba could do what he wanted with Han. Han did what he could in the situation. If Han had waited for Greedo to shoot first, he would have been fucking *dead*. Self-defense isn't murder. And if you didn't want Han to shoot first, why did you write it in the first place?
*Sighs*
Sorry, that was just an honest WTF moment. I still love Lucas and his work, but goddamn was that stupid. >.>
And insulting people who wanted the original originals and saying "LOL ur version isn't reel, n00b; Lucas gonna rickroll ur fanboi/fangurl ass" (or so I've heard, and probably minus the Rickroll) is fucking insulting and stupid -- and it doesn't help your case. It makes you look like an asshole. That would make a good PSA, really: don't be an asshole. I know some off-LJ who could use the lesson.
-The "you have no taste" argument: All right, I loathe this argument, I really do. But most PT detractors aren't like that. They have legitimate points, and some of them? They're some of the nicest people you could ever meet. Not all of them are bullies. Like I said, cretins are in every fandom. But they're not the majority. And really? Every fandom out there, as a whole -- they're worth all the cretins in the world. Because for every cretin, there are some of the best friends I've ever made; in a sense, some of them have made me way better than I was previously. I've had people to laugh with, chat with, rant with -- and really? That's worth everything in the galaxy.
And those are my thoughts. I apologize if I inadvertently offended anyone, anywhere, but I had to rant. I don't really hold many of these opinions (except the Order. They bug me), but really? Everyone's opinion is valid in some way or another. I wish more people realized it.
Thoughts? Comments? Objections? I'd love to hear them. :)
While the guy in question makes some good points, there are a few things that bothered me. Or at least, things I want to talk about.
-The matter of Lucas not getting STAR WARS: Okay, I will admit that argument can be a bit silly considering that he created the damn thing, but at the same time, creators are human. They make mistakes. And while I can't say whether or not Lucas has, per se (okay, except for King Rash. Rash can go to hell. :P And the design of Ahsoka's costume -- I mean, she's *fourteen*, for fuck's sake! And the Jedi being assholes -- I just think he didn't really do it well, which I may get to later), saying that people who don't get it need to learn to get it or get out of the fandom... *Sighs* Here's the secret: most of them have very valid reasons for why they don't like certain aspects of STAR WARS. Sure, there may be cretins in the fandom, but every fandom has those. And honestly? I think that people who dictate the rules of fandom really need to stop trying to do that. Because honestly? Fandom is there for fun, not for the sake of bossing people around. And if people like that don't get it...well, they're probably the ones who should get out of the fandom, For everyone's sake.
(None of you guys here. You're very nice)
-Lucas ultimately owns STAR WARS: All right, yes. Fine. But I think at the same time...well, I think Lucas owes as much to his fans in turn. For example, not insulting them when he was due for retirement. Because really? As I said earlier, most of them have valid points. And I'm sure that most of them didn't want to see him retire, and they sure as hell weren't expecting to be semi-implicated in it.
*Sighs*
Lucas, if by any unlikely chance that you're reading this, know that none of us have ever truly hated you. (I hope) We may have hated some of the decisions you made, but never you personally. At least, I never did. And I know there are people out there who are grateful for Luke and Leia and so many others, even if they don't like what else you may have done. Honestly, for every RLM-wannabe, there's someone willing to write a Doorstopper of a rebuttal on behalf of TPM. For everyone on Twitter or Tumblr who retweets or reblogs someone's pro-Lucas opinion to make fun of it, there's always someone brave enough to step up to the plate and say, "No more." Hell, you shouldn't presume that your fanbase has turned against you because of a few people with egos that could rival Ian Levine's. (For those who don't know who Levine is...it's a WHO thing)
*Sighs*
Granted, I doubt this bit's going to change a damn thing. But at least I can get it out.
-The plot/acting/etc. -- Okay, point taken. That said, I still have issues in regards to the plot. The Jedi Council suffering from a case of "stupid for the plot to proceed" -- granted, that may be the point, but... *Sighs* When the plot could be unraveled by someone on the Council not blindly going along with what Palpatine wants, it's probably time to go back to the drawing board. Maybe it's just me, but it's a detail that just really annoys me. Also, I'm guessing what worked back then probably doesn't work now, and for movies that are supposed to be darker and more realistic than the OT...yeah, you can't have it both ways. Or maybe you can? I don't know.
Also, accusing people of simply not being devoted enough fan-wise...that's insulting, and goes back to the whole "true fan" mentality that annoys the fuck out of me. Am I not a true fan because I don't think how you want me to think? Is that it? Because it's really kind of a ridiculous way to think. Everyone's opinion is valid, in some way or another. (Well, most of the time)
-Okay, no complaints here. It just brings me to something that's been kind of hounding me for a while -- "ZOMG ANAKIN IS PURE EVUL, HOW CAN YOU FEEL SORRY FOR HIM?"
*Sighs*
First off, to paraphrase Russell T. Davies, labeling someone as evil doesn't help understand someone's motivations any more, nor does it help decrease their numbers. It's usually one of the things that should be an honorable mention on Cracked's "Top Five Dismissive Arguments You Only Use When You're Wrong", even if there are areas where it is applicable. Second off, it's way more complex than that. He was in a difficult situation, had no doubt witnessed good people die over the course of the Clone Wars, as well as being used by both Palpatine and the Council. I doubt most people would fare any better in that situation; after all, none of us are saints. Or who knows, maybe we would? I just love Anakin because he's human and flawed, and thus I definitely prefer him to the stereotypical clean-cut heroes slaying dragons who are never touched by evil in some form. Because they're not interesting, they don't develop, and they're not well-written. Good writing is willing to go to places others fear to tread, and thus, it's why I love the PT. For all its faults, it took risks -- risks that I doubt many others would have been willing to take.
Not to mention I myself can identify a lot with Anakin. I didn't really fit in well at school, I had these constant fears of not being good enough, I'm...pretty protective of people I care about, I have a bit of a short temper, and while the teachers at my school were much nicer than the Council was towards Anakin, I still had issues with some of my teachers. Which I think is one of many reasons why I can identify with Anakin a bit, and him having to put up with what it means to be the Chosen One, and a Jedi. I know Anakin saying to Padme, "I'm a Jedi. I know I'm better than this" really strikes a chord with me, because I know I tend to think that a lot. Not to mention, sometimes like Anakin, I wish I could make things right, be good enough...stuff like that.
So bottom line, I love Anakin if only because of his imperfections. Nothing more. I can understand if people dislike him if only because they find him grating at certain points, but...that's my point of view, at least. :)
-About Jar-Jar: Mostly combining both points about Jar-Jar if only...well, let's face it, they serve the same point. Jar-Jar was actually one of those characters I didn't expect to like, let alone love. I know my first encounter with him was a TPM tie-in book with a cover that looked like it had crawled out of Ralph Bakshi's nightmares: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090222161232/starwars/images/2/26/WatchOutJarJar-cover.jpg. It's for that reason I find Rifftrax's comment about Jar-Jar looking like Roger Rabbit designed by Satan hilarious, at least in a sense. XD But when I got to Terry Brooks' novelization of TPM, I absolutely loved him. I know stand-out passages include his thoughts after Padme's meeting with the Senate, as well as his thoughts during the Battle of Naboo. I think Brooks did a good job with making him identifiable.
It's also the characterization I'm going for in the RR-Verse (at least I hope) -- a rather klutzy young Gungan with a lot of empathy. With a dash of angst in there if only because of his time in an Imperial camp with Obi-Wan (/end minor detail spoiler). Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. :(
-Midichlorians: Definitely agree on that point. I'll admit, I don't know why some people (not here, just elsewhere) go, "The Force is scientific? Holy crap, the end is nigh!" And maybe I'm being a bit harsh, and people have legit reasons as to why they don't like the idea of the midichlorians (and if so...I'm interested. :), but...I dunno, I just don't get what the deal is. (Should I turn in my geek card right now?)
-The Jedi: Okay, the guy makes some good points on them, but I'm not quite happy still. I just didn't find the Jedi even remotely sympathetic or heroic or whatnot -- they basically browbeat a boy for missing his mother, for one thing, as well as tried to get a son to kill his father. In addition, they've been willing to commit genocide several times, mind rape (looking at you, Council in the first KOTOR game) and attempt to strip the Force from those they deem to be unnatural (Council in KOTOR II, anyone?), as well as exile those trying to help those in need. Not to mention being more interested in taxations on trade routes than helping out with the slave problem on Tatooine (and I don't give a rat's ass about Tatooine being outside the Republic's jurisdiction; they have a duty to help those in need), refusing to let people visit their families, refusing to mercy kill or redeem people, thinking in black and white, refusing to take responsibility -- honestly, if they're the alleged good guys, they could at least act like them once in a while.
Honestly, I doubt there's any difference between the Jedi and the Sith. The Sith just cut the bullshit and admit they're monsters, at least. Otherwise, they're the exact same people -- people with too much power, to paraphrase KOTOR II, squabbling over religion while everyone else in the galaxy burns.
*Sighs*
Sorry -- just had to get it out. I just wish that Lucas had gone into more detail about why the Jedi are who they are -- Yoda, for example. I mean, in the EU, it's explained that what happened with Dooku was where Yoda started losing faith in the idea of redemption. And while I commend the EU if only for that, how powerful would it be if that were an arc for Yoda in the films? Picture it -- a younger Yoda, younger than in ESB and ROTJ at least, starting out...not perfect, but idealistic at the most. Relatively good-intentioned, and with the belief of redemption. When Dooku falls, Yoda goes after him to Geonosis if only to save him from himself, but Dooku refuses, if only because he thinks that he's doing the right thing. After all, the Republic has become corrupt. It 's time for a change in regime. Naturally, Yoda disagrees because even though the Republic has become corrupt, it's ideals are still very much worth fighting for. He continues throughout the Clone Wars to save his former student, never giving up hope...and then the end of the Clone Wars. When Anakin kills him, in a way, Yoda can't help but hate him -- even though he tries to suppress it, because Jedi don't hate. And yet at the same time, he can't help it. All his hopes of saving Dooku, lost. He knows that Dooku technically rejected redemption, but at the same time, a part of him finds it hard to take. In a way, he hates Anakin because when he looks at him, he sees the man who killed Dooku. Things get worse when Order 66 rolls around, and combined with Dooku's loss and the near-genocide of the Order, Yoda doesn't see how Anakin can be redeemed. He doesn't punish Anakin when he sends Obi-Wan to fight him. After all, a Jedi does not take revenge. But at the same time, after Dooku and Order 66...is it any wonder that he and Obi-Wan are doubtful of Anakin being redeemed?
*Sighs*
Okay, that probably came off as more crappy wish-fulfillment on my part than anything else. But at least, it would have been nice to see how Yoda became who he was.
-Kiddie STAR WARS: Okay, I can see his point. Then again, I never really got the whole "kiddie isn't meaningful" stuff. As Russell T. Davies said long ago, basically, kids can appreciate tragedy, and adults can appreciate comedy. Kids are smarter than most (in general) give them credit for. I'll admit that it's one problem I have with CLONE WARS; there are times when I feel it doesn't take it's audience seriously. At least, some of the dialogue feels like we're being told what to think (I know for all I loved "Tipping Points", that was a major offender in that regard). At least...let he audience figure things out for themselves. Don't exposit what we're supposed to think. Still really love CLONE WARS; that was just something that bugged me.
-CGI: Okay, the guy has a point, but I think the problem is...well, there were a lot of blue and green screen shots in the PT. While there were some location shots, at the same time...well, you can't just make your blue screen/green screen the answer to everything. People might not be able to know what they're looking at, for example. People might not be able to see where they're going. And while sometimes blue screen/green screen is necessary (e.g. really dangerous shots like fighting amongst lava), at the same time, if you confuse your actors...you're kind of in trouble.
And Pixar? The whole point of Pixar was animating everything in CGI, making a genre out of it. It wasn't supposed to look...real-real, really. The problem with some CGI is that it takes a fine hand to make it look real. And sometimes using it where it's not needed (e.g. THE CAVERN with a fucking *CGI campfire*).
I think ultimately where LOTR succeeded was that it managed to strike a balance between practical and non-practical effects. Sort of half and half. CGI isn't the devil as so many make it out to be (then again, I think most off LJ are wannabe hipsters. Best I can gather. They might have legit reasons though, and I could be wrong), but...balance in all things, people. That includes effects.
-Used future: Okay, point, but at the same time, a little dirt and dust goes a long way at adding realism.
-Canon contradicting EU: Okay, seriously, that's admittedly kind of dumb. I mean, I think the EU authors are just as much guessing as we are. They're not really the final word on things. I actually like some of their work (I know), but they're not really the experts on things.
-Han shot first: What really gets to me is Lucas accusing the "Han shot first " crowd of wanting Han to be a cold-blooded killer. I mean, *no*. Self-defense does not equal cold-blooded murder. Greedo was not some poor defenseless hellspawn; he was going to either kill Han or turn him over to Jabba so Jabba could do what he wanted with Han. Han did what he could in the situation. If Han had waited for Greedo to shoot first, he would have been fucking *dead*. Self-defense isn't murder. And if you didn't want Han to shoot first, why did you write it in the first place?
*Sighs*
Sorry, that was just an honest WTF moment. I still love Lucas and his work, but goddamn was that stupid. >.>
And insulting people who wanted the original originals and saying "LOL ur version isn't reel, n00b; Lucas gonna rickroll ur fanboi/fangurl ass" (or so I've heard, and probably minus the Rickroll) is fucking insulting and stupid -- and it doesn't help your case. It makes you look like an asshole. That would make a good PSA, really: don't be an asshole. I know some off-LJ who could use the lesson.
-The "you have no taste" argument: All right, I loathe this argument, I really do. But most PT detractors aren't like that. They have legitimate points, and some of them? They're some of the nicest people you could ever meet. Not all of them are bullies. Like I said, cretins are in every fandom. But they're not the majority. And really? Every fandom out there, as a whole -- they're worth all the cretins in the world. Because for every cretin, there are some of the best friends I've ever made; in a sense, some of them have made me way better than I was previously. I've had people to laugh with, chat with, rant with -- and really? That's worth everything in the galaxy.
And those are my thoughts. I apologize if I inadvertently offended anyone, anywhere, but I had to rant. I don't really hold many of these opinions (except the Order. They bug me), but really? Everyone's opinion is valid in some way or another. I wish more people realized it.
Thoughts? Comments? Objections? I'd love to hear them. :)
olcudmond
Date: 2014-03-22 01:36 am (UTC)